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Aviation Forum / General / Learning / September 2008ILS 34L KJAN VOR Alpha KMBO - Video
ILS approach into KJAN in actual IMC. 700 foot ceilings at KJAN 1200 at KMBO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnqm0k5QRA > ILS approach into KJAN in actual IMC. 700 foot ceilings at KJAN 1200 > at KMBO > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnqm0k5QRA That was fun to watch. Thanks. > > ILS approach into KJAN in actual IMC. 700 foot ceilings at KJAN 1200 > > at KMBO > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnqm0k5QRA > > That was fun to watch. Thanks. Thanks Stella for the compliments! It definately was fun to fly :-)) > ILS approach into KJAN in actual IMC. 700 foot ceilings at KJAN 1200 > at KMBO > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnqm0k5QRA Questions: On ILS KJAN, you had a couple of cockpit noises )I think my connection was bad) that sounded like warning horns? ??? What was your thought processes to take this flight in the first place, weather sucked. > On ILS KJAN, you had a couple of cockpit noises )I think my connection > was bad) that sounded like warning horns? ??? No warning horns while enroute, I think you may be hearing the outer marker beacons which is an audible signal to start descending for an instrument approach on an ILS approach. The higher pitched beeping you hear is the middle marker beacon on an ILS approach which is the missed approach point where I better see the runway. Instead of having the sound come over my headset, I put it on external speaker so the camera mic can pick up the sounds. > What was your thought processes to take this flight in the first place, > weather sucked. You are correct, to the land lubbers, weather was crappy at best. HOWEVER, this type of weather is what I seek to keep my instrument rating "wet". I am entering the season in Mississippi where mornings give low stratiform clouds with no chance of icing. Without my instrument rating, in a couple weeks time, my airplane becomes a very expensive paper weight, so it's critical I maintain proficiency, and what a better way then to actually touch clouds :-) After landing, just about everytime it has that "wow factor" that I was privileged to be inside the clouds that float lazily by me from the ground. As you can see, not much to see inside a cloud, but that "thrill of victory" after landing... Well, that is priceless! >> On ILS KJAN, you had a couple of cockpit noises )I think my connection >> was bad) that sounded like warning horns? ??? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Instead of having the sound come over my headset, I put it on external > speaker so the camera mic can pick up the sounds. I am going to go back and listen, I believe I heard two sounds, different. >> What was your thought processes to take this flight in the first place, >> weather sucked. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > As you can see, not much to see inside a cloud, but that "thrill of > victory" after landing... Well, that is priceless! No IFR here, that's coming later in the year and like I suspected, I'm going to need it after the rainiest summer season in SW FL history (I think). I have held off buying until I get rated for the very reason you mentioned. Of course, I have no clue what I want either. With IFR, the entire picture changes. Ever fly into Water Valley, MS? > >> What was your thought processes to take this flight in the first place, > >> weather sucked. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > think). I have held off buying until I get rated for the very reason you > mentioned. For what it's worth, if you know you are going to continue to fly, it may pay to do what I did and buy your plane for your IA training. Might as well put the rental money in something you own and you get to learn your birds handling characteristic with the bonus of an instructor in the right seat. I probably saved 5K in training cost as all I had to do was come up with fuel and one oil change during the training and of course pay the instructor fee. > Ever fly into Water Valley, MS? Nope, closest would be Batesville and Oxford. Be interesting to see what you heard insofar as "horns", if you hear it, tell me what second(s) it happened at. > Be interesting to see what you heard insofar as "horns", if you hear > it, tell me what second(s) it happened at. 2:00 descent to KJAN 3:09 @ KJAN landing 4:55 VOR KMBO descent 5:35 turn to base KMBO > > Be interesting to see what you heard insofar as "horns", if you hear > > it, tell me what second(s) it happened at. Excellent, pretty much what I guessed / thought. > 2:00 descent to KJAN Outer marker beacan for the ILS 34L approach. The low tone is an audible to alert me to start my descent on this approach. A blue light starts blinking on my audio panel. Look for the word DABEY at http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0809/05132IL34L.PDF As you can see, it's quite white out so I have no visual reference to know when to start my descent. The marker beacon is just one of many tools. > 3:09 @ KJAN landing Middle marker beacon for the ILS. An orange light begins to blink. At this point of the ILS, GENERALLY speaking I better have sight of the runway because I am at minimums or I better be going missed approach (go around) Look for the letters MM in the above link to see where I am. I am 200 feet above the ground which only gives me about 15 seconds to see the runway and land the plane. > 4:55 VOR KMBO descent Hmm, talking in the background? No beacon noise that I heard. > 5:35 turn to base KMBO Outer marker beacon for the ILS 16 over KJAN. KMBO (Madison MS) is just to the left of the final approach course at KJAN (Jackson MS) and when I am on downwind for 35, that takes me close to the outer marker. Look for my name (ALLEN) at http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0809/05132I16L.PDF to get a feel for where I was for that beeping noise. To get the beacon sounds to come out on the camera, I set the audio panel marker beacon to "speaker". If I wanted to hear it in my ears, I set the beacon marker to phones. Most people that I have flown with don't even turn the beacon marker on. Hope this clears up the sounds? >> 4:55 VOR KMBO descent > > Hmm, talking in the background? No beacon noise that I heard. Very short, could be background radio? >>> Be interesting to see what you heard insofar as "horns", if you hear >>> it, tell me what second(s) it happened at. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Hope this clears up the sounds? Great post, thanks for the time put into it :) > > Hope this clears up the sounds? > > Great post, thanks for the time put into it :) Glad to take the time! Tomorrow I am going to fly, not sure where yet, depends on weather, but I want to check out my Nav2 on an ILS approach. Hard to believe, but several people have asked me to video my preflight outside the plane, so if all goes well, I will do this tomorrow. Should be interesting to see how this video comes out, hopefully I will be able to do the preflight without any "interruptions". Handling the camera will be the very interesting part since I want to make the video feel like one is right there doing the preflight, rather then get another person video me doing the preflight. In my mind, I think I can pull this off without looking too cheezy since by talking out loud what I am thinking / checking may help make sense of what the video displays, but guess time will tell! |
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