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Aviation Forum / General / Aviation / September 2008A new record!
I count around six posts in a row about aviation, with almost all of the responses actually related to the topic. Common factor- no Anthony Atkielski. When asked a logical question, Bertie gives reasonable and factual answers based upon knowledge and experience. This was never the case with MX, since he has neither. Let's keep it up! BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in struts as well as tires? > I count around six posts in a row about aviation, with almost all of the > responses actually related to the topic. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in struts as > well as tires? Hell, why not use it in the pilots oxygen tanks?......we tried it downunder http://pamablog.typepad.com/pama/2007/12/qantas-pumps-ni.html Terry > Common factor- no Anthony Atkielski. When asked a logical question, Bertie > gives reasonable and factual answers based upon knowledge and experience. > This was never the case with MX, since he has neither. > > Let's keep it up! Its also nice not to have Jay H and his "Grass is greener at POA" stuff. Frank Bertie gives reasonable and factual answers based upon knowledge and experience. Ah, so now you're a Bertie supporter too. He (Bertie) has given some of the most reasonable and intelligent responses in the NG. The other crap is harder to explain. It is still better than Anthony by orders of magnitude. > He (Bertie) has given some of the most reasonable and intelligent > responses in the NG. The other crap is harder to explain. > > It is still better than Anthony by orders of magnitude. It has always done more damage to this group DAILY, than you own particular peeve "Anthony" can do in a month. When you morons constantly complain about the quality of this group, and then turn around a stroke Bertie, you deserve whatever you get. Bertie is no one's friend, his is a wanna be troll, period. Post after post, he laughs at you idiots and brags he is only here for his own entertainment, but you dumb a.ses just don't get it. One or two on topic posts, and you forget everything. Enjoy your pet. What a moron- you can't even come up with a creative insult? How weak is that? > What a moron- you can't even come up with a creative insult? How weak is > that? I wasn't trying to insult you. I just wanted to document how far your head was up your a.s. You really are weak- is that the best you can do? Come on and bring it on. > You really are weak- is that the best you can do? Come on and bring it on. well, this thread didn't last long until it went down hill.  SignatureRegards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI >> What a moron- you can't even come up with a creative insult? How weak >> is that? > > I wasn't trying to insult you. I just wanted to document how far your > head was up your a.s. Not to worry. you can save it for volume 8 Bertie | >> What a moron- you can't even come up with a creative insult? How weak | >> is that? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | Bertie >| >> What a moron- you can't even come up with a creative insult? How weak >| >> is that? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >| >| Bertie Or 9, I'm not fussy Bertie | >| >> What a moron- you can't even come up with a creative insult? How weak | >| >> is that? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | | Bertie >> He (Bertie) has given some of the most reasonable and intelligent >> responses in the NG. The other crap is harder to explain. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Enjoy your pet. I know I do. Bertie > He (Bertie) has given some of the most reasonable and intelligent > responses in the NG. The other crap is harder to explain. Not in the least! I find k00ks like Maxie to be enormous fun to pke until they squeal. They never get it, either. It's kinda like one of those squishy executive stress relievers.... Bertie > Bertie gives reasonable and factual answers based upon knowledge and > experience. > > Ah, so now you're a Bertie supporter too. Feeling some competition there Maxie? Bertie >BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in struts as >well as tires? Some shops do use nitrogen in the struts. Why, I dunno. Some shops do use nitrogen in the struts. Why, I dunno. That's the point- why not use air in the struts instead of nitrogen? >> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in >> struts as well as tires? > > Some shops do use nitrogen in the struts. Why, I dunno. I was an F-4 crew chief at RAF Lakenheath. TOs specified nitrogen or dry air for tires and struts, as I recall. Nitrogen was used for struts to better inhibit corrosion. Air was used for tires because oxidation wasn't a problem for tires. The tires would be changed due to cuts from all the flint around the taxiways long before oxidation became a problem. F4's at the Heath. Hell that's going back some... When I was still in nappies LOL Cheers, Paul, Norwich, Norfolk, UK. > >> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in > >> struts as well as tires? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > problem for tires. The tires would be changed due to cuts from all the > flint around the taxiways long before oxidation became a problem. > BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in > struts as well as tires? It is. >> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in >> struts as well as tires? > > It is. Not in big ones, definitely. Bertie >>> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in >>> struts as well as tires? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bertie Dead wrong. > Dead wrong. Give it up you moron- at least come up with a creative insult, something with some great cynicism or spice. Otherwise you just come across as the idiot bully in the fifth grade. "Viperdoc" <jninomi@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:9HRzk.411$D32.85 @flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com: >> Dead wrong. > > Give it up you moron- at least come up with a creative insult, something > with some great cynicism or spice. Otherwise you just come across as the > idiot bully in the fifth grade. Sssshh! That's a good thing. Bertie >> Dead wrong. > > Give it up you moron- at least come up with a creative insult, something > with some great cynicism or spice. Otherwise you just come across as the > idiot bully in the fifth grade. So you are also saying nitrogen is NEVER used for struts in heavies? >>> Dead wrong. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So you are also saying nitrogen is NEVER used for struts in heavies? I think if you re-read his post you will find it says: "Give it up you moron- at least come up with a creative insult, something with some great cynicism or spice. Otherwise you just come across as the idiot bully in the fifth grade." See? Bertie >>>> Dead wrong. >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Bertie You can't follow a thread either. >>>>> Dead wrong. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > You can't follow a thread either. Yes, I can. Bertie >>>>>> Dead wrong. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Bertie You're a cross posting dumb a.s. >>>>>>> Dead wrong. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > You're a cross posting dumb a.s. Please elaborate. Sorry, you couldn't possibly know what that means as it's not written in Okie. Allow me to transloate. Talk sum mo cleetus Bertie | Bertie Wow, what a cross post. Dudley, Viperdoc and CJ will be very proud. Mick First, I don't cross post. Second, do you any response based upon knowledge or background? If so, please enlighten the rest of us. | Mick | | First, I don't cross post. Second, do you any response based upon knowledge | or background? | | If so, please enlighten the rest of us. I didn't say you did. >| Mick >| [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I didn't say you did. There ya go. Maxine speaks. Good boi maxine! Bertie | >| Mick | >| [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | | Bertie >| >| Mick >| >| [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >| >| Bertie Here's a treat! Good boi! Bertie | >| >| Mick | >| >| [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] | | Bertie > Mick > > First, I don't cross post. Second, do you any response based upon > knowledge or background? > > If so, please enlighten the rest of us. Can't wait to see the reply to this! Of one thing I'm sure, though. It will be enlightening. Bertie | > Mick | > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | | Bertie >| > Mick >| > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >| >| Bertie Told ya Bertie | >| > Mick | >| > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] | | Bertie >| Bertie > > Wow, what a cross post. Dudley, Viperdoc and CJ will be very proud. *blush* Bertie | >| Bertie | > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | | Bertie >| >| Bertie >| > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >| >| Bertie Snort! Bertie | >| >| Bertie | >| > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | | Bertie >| >| >| Bertie >| >| > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >| >| Bertie You don't actually believe that I'll get tired of this, do you? Oh wait, I forgot, you're an idiot. Bertie | >| >| >| Bertie | >| >| > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] | | Bertie >>>> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in >>>> struts as well as tires? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dead wrong. Nope Bertie >>>>> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in >>>>> struts as well as tires? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bertie I just love it when you make statements that absolutely prove you couldn't be an airline pilot. You're just a common phoney, just like Mx, and a liar to boot. >>>>>> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it >>>>>> in struts as well as tires? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > couldn't > be an airline pilot. I'm sure you do! I can almost hear your juices flowing there k00kie boi. > You're just a common phoney, just like Mx, and a liar to boot. Nope. Bertie Keep hat dancing Buttlipps, maybe you can get Bich Ahrens or Mikey Mouth to come play fiddle for ya. > Keep hat dancing Buttlipps, maybe you can get Bich Ahrens or Mikey > Mouth to come play fiddle for ya. As long as you're playing the drums, why not, Maxie.. Bertie on 9/16/2008 1:19 PM Mick said the following: > Keep hat dancing Buttlipps, maybe you can get Bich Ahrens or Mikey Mouth to > come play fiddle for ya. Reliving your days on the kindergarden playground again, eh, Maxie? > on 9/16/2008 1:19 PM Mick said the following: >> >> Keep hat dancing Buttlipps, maybe you can get Bich Ahrens or Mikey Mouth >> to come play fiddle for ya. > > Reliving your days on the kindergarden playground again, eh, Maxie? Clueless as usual. >> on 9/16/2008 1:19 PM Mick said the following: >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Clueless as usual. Well, perhaps if you wrote in English or some other internationally recognised language. Or maybe even a popular Pidgeon or Creole. ... Bertie >>> on 9/16/2008 1:19 PM Mick said the following: >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bertie You're a cross posting dumb a.s. >>>> on 9/16/2008 1:19 PM Mick said the following: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You're a cross posting dumb a.s. You don;t know the meaning of the words, "cross post" Bertie | You don;t know the meaning of the words, "cross post" | | Bertie It's not a word dumb a.s, it's two. >| You don;t know the meaning of the words, "cross post" >| >| Bertie > > It's not a word dumb a.s, it's two. Yes, fjukkktard, I know. that's why I used the plural. I tried to find a page that explains all that, but they were all in english, not okie. Bertie | >| You don;t know the meaning of the words, "cross post" | >| [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | | Bertie >| >| You don;t know the meaning of the words, "cross post" >| >| [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >| >| Bertie Anyone know of an English Okie dictionary online? Kind of a waste since none of them can read, I guesss.. Bertie | >| "Mick" <@_#`~#@.^net> wrote in news:tFDAk.13279$rV4.3026 | @newsfe03.iad: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] | | Bertie on 9/19/2008 1:55 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following: >> | "Mick" <@_#`~#@.^net> wrote in news:tFDAk.13279$rV4.3026 > @newsfe03.iad: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Anyone know of an English Okie dictionary online? Ask and ye shall receive... http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/minnesota/491/dictionary.html Rich Ahrens <rma@iphouse.com> wrote in news:48dd73a5$0$90344$804603d3 @auth.newsreader.iphouse.com: > on 9/19/2008 1:55 PM Bertie the Bunyip said the following: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/minnesota/491/dictionary.html When will i learn to look first? Bertie on 9/16/2008 7:02 PM Mick said the following: >> on 9/16/2008 1:19 PM Mick said the following: >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Clueless as usual. Indeed you are. >>> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in >>> struts as well as tires? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Bertie one of my mates was flying his cherokee back home. at one of the intermediate stopovers I joined him. we were walking out to fly the last leg and he was complaining about the nose leg being almost flat. while I was looking over the aircraft as he did the preflight I noticed one of those little 12v air compressors on the rear floor. at the end of the preflight he advised me that we would be stuck there for a while. The mechanic wasn t available to pump up the oleo and it looked to be totally flat. we flipped the cowl open to see if anything was damaged. it all looked ok so I took the little schrader cap off, fetched the little pump out of the rear and hooked it all up. bururururururur for a few moments and the nose leg magically extended back to a useable length. my mate was stunned. the pump lived permanently on the rear floor and not once had he ever thought to use it. we flew home in perfect safety. even greased it on the home runway. only the dimwitted like maxie would worry about nitrogen in little aircraft. Stealth Pilot > only the dimwitted like maxie would worry about nitrogen in little > aircraft. > > Stealth Pilot You're a liar, I never said any such thing. >> only the dimwitted like maxie would worry about nitrogen in little >> aircraft. >> >> Stealth Pilot > > You're a liar, I never said any such thing. He never said you did. He just said you were dimwitted, which is entirely correct. Bertie >>>> BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in >>>> struts as well as tires? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > only the dimwitted like maxie would worry about nitrogen in little > aircraft. Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to use.. bertie > Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to use.. > > bertie Oh, do you use nitrogen when your head is low on air? Is that why you have a pony tail, to hide the valve stem? >> Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to use.. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is that why you have a pony tail, to hide the valve stem? Uh, yeh, OK lamer boi. Bertie >> Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to use.. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Is that why you have a pony tail, to hide the valve stem? wow! thems real cutting edge insults. shouldnt you have batteries in you? Stealth Pilot >>> Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to use.. >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > shouldnt you have batteries in you? > Stealth Pilot Why do you still go by Stealth Pilot. We all know your name is Howard Jones. >>>> Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to >>>> use.. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Why do you still go by Stealth Pilot. We all know your name is Howard > Jones. Why do you keep changing your name? Everyone knows you're a fjukktard.. Bertie >>>>> Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to >>>>> use.. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bertie You're a cross posting dumb a.s. >>>>>> Well, i wouldn;t worry about it, but I'd use if it were around to >>>>>> use.. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > You're a cross posting dumb a.s. you sound angry. This upsets me. Bertie | This upsets me. | | Bertie take Pepto >| This upsets me. >| >| Bertie > > take Pepto nah, I have other means of relieving stress. Bertie | >| This upsets me. | >| [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | Bertie >| >| This upsets me. >| >| [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >| >| Bertie see? Bertie | >| >| This upsets me. | >| >| [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | | Bertie >| >| >| This upsets me. >| >| >| [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >| >| Bertie Just want to let you know you're doing a fantastic job there, Maxie. Bertie | >| >| >| This upsets me. | >| >| >| [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | | Bertie >| >| >| >| This upsets me. >| >| >| >| [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >| >| Bertie Fantastic Bertie | >| "Mick" <@_#`~#@.^net> wrote in news:zLSAk.19963$PK.11419 | @newsfe04.iad: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] | | Bertie | >| This upsets me. | >| [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | Bertie I surprised you can still find it. >| >| This upsets me. >| >| [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I surprised you can still find it. You're right here, w.nker boi. Bertie | >| >| This upsets me. | >| >| [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | | Bertie >| >| >| This upsets me. >| >| >| [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >| >| Bertie Seee?> Bertie | >| >| >| This upsets me. | >| >| >| [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] | | Bertie > I count around six posts in a row about aviation, with almost all of > the responses actually related to the topic. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in > struts as well as tires? Oh, real bad idea since you now have a non reciprcating diesel engine, for one thing! Also prevents oxidation of the fescalised bit of the strut... Bertie > I count around six posts in a row about aviation, with almost all of the > responses actually related to the topic. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in struts as > well as tires? My A&P does use nitrogen in the nose strut. I just do not use it in the tires. SignatureRegards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI >I count around six posts in a row about aviation, with almost all of the >responses actually related to the topic. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > BTW- if air would work equally well as nitrogen, why not use it in struts > as well as tires? It is my understanding that nitrogen does not expand and contract as much as dry shop air making it more suitable for use where a constant pressure over a wide temperature range is desired. Signature*H. Allen Smith* WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there. But air is 78% nitrogen, and even though it's not an ideal gas, the remaining volume of oxygen should pretty be linear with temperature, and certainly not a whole lot different from nitrogen. (Anthony, don't even bother trying to engage in this one). Sorry, but I just don't buy the thermal expansion explanation. The closest one may have to do with oxidation at higher partial pressures of oxygen, which may be faster for certain organic compounds like rubber. This would only apply to the tube, and not the tire, since all of the nitrogen is theoretically contained within the tube only. I do not believe that for a given amount of water the vapor pressure would be any higher in air versus nitrogen either (given an equal volume and pressure of nitrogen and air, I do not think either would contain a substantially higher amount of water, even if saturated.) Don't they fill farm tractor tires with some high density salt compound or something non-ionic like urea just to add weight? Do their wheels corrode faster if filled with salt solutions? > Don't they fill farm tractor tires with some high density salt compound or > something non-ionic like urea just to add weight? Yes, and they are tube tires. > Do their wheels corrode faster if filled with salt solutions? If the tube leaks, yes, they will rust out the rim more quickly. I believe I have heard of a non salt liquid now available. I recall hearing that it is much more expensive, and not used as much. I'll ask my active farming friends tomorrow, if I can remember to. SignatureJim in NC > > Don't they fill farm tractor tires with some high density salt compound or > > something non-ionic like urea just to add weight? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I'll ask my active farming friends tomorrow, if I can remember to. I can tell you now. Water. Plain unadulterated H2O. Why would you want Urea in the tyre tubes and not on the pasture ????? I can tell you now. Water. Plain unadulterated H2O. Why would you want Urea in the tyre tubes and not on the pasture ????? I can tell you for a FACT that water is not the only thing used. In areas where the land is rather... Uh, not level - <g> - it is very important to keep the tractor right-side-up. That is not always easy, and still go where you need to go. The fluid in the tires is put in around 1/3 to 1/2 full. That keeps the center of gravity lower, and the more weight you can get below the axles, the better off you will be. Urea may not be the answer, but I know there is some fluid that is substantially heavier than water that is commonly used, at least in my neck of the woods. SignatureJim in NC > I can tell you now. > Water. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > substantially heavier than water that is commonly used, at least in my > neck of the woods. Calcium chloride is what was used where I lived. Did not freeze like plain H2O would and is very heavy. Signature*H. Allen Smith* WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there. |
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