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Aviation Forum / General / Aviation / September 2008Any thoughts on today's N999LJ overrun at Columbia?
Just finished watching the press release. Any thoughts on the LR30's accident? > Just finished watching the press release. Any thoughts on the LR30's > accident? I haven't seen any factual information yet other than the fact that the plane went off the end of the runway. -Robert >I haven't seen any factual information yet other than the fact that >the plane went off the end of the runway. But this is the Internet, so we can just wildly speculate right? Vaughn My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. Plain and simple. Have a better theory, at this point? >>I haven't seen any factual information yet other than the fact that >>the plane went off the end of the runway. > > But this is the Internet, so we can just wildly speculate right? > > Vaughn > My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the > pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. What's a runway constraint? Bertie >> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the >> pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. > > What's a runway constraint? > > Bertie At the end of the runway, there is a 5000 ft drop, straight down. How's that for a constraint.  SignatureRegards, Bob F. >>> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the >>> pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > At the end of the runway, there is a 5000 ft drop, straight down. How's > that for a constraint. Gives you some time to get flying speed up... Bertie >>>> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the >>>> pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bertie oops sorry, I just took another look at the article and noticed the accident happened at Columbia S.C. I thought the accident was at Columbia Airport in the California Sierra's. No drop that I know of in S.C. SignatureRegards, Bob F. >>>>> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the >>>>> pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Columbia Airport in the California Sierra's. No drop that I know of > in S.C. OK, but what I meant was that a pilot of an aircraft of that performance level isn't really thinking "restraint". It's really more cut and dried than that. Bertie >>> At the end of the runway, there is a 5000 ft drop, straight down. How's >>> that for a constraint. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >happened at Columbia S.C. I thought the accident was at Columbia Airport >in the California Sierra's. No drop that I know of in S.C. I have been into Columbia, California airport many times and if there is a 5000 ft drop, they must have dug it recently. Ed Sullivan >> What's a runway constraint? >> >> Bertie > > At the end of the runway, there is a 5000 ft drop, straight down. How's > that for a constraint. exactly >>> What's a runway constraint? >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > exactly Who plans on using what lies beyond the end of a runway? It doesn't answer the question. Bertie >>>> What's a runway constraint? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bertie Oh, you were asking a serious question. What about a clearway? It's beyond the end of the runway and used for planning purposes...no? SignatureRegards, Bob F. >>>>> What's a runway constraint? >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Oh, you were asking a serious question. What about a clearway? It's > beyond the end of the runway and used for planning purposes...no? True, but it's part of the runway environment. The point I was trying to make was that the word just didn't seem to fit the picture. I dont know what word I would use in it's place. Performance limitations would probably be closer to it, but that probably had little to do with the accident in any case, as they were probably well within those.. I just thought "constraint" is a bit tabloid n this case. Bertie | >>>>> What's a runway constraint? | >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] | | Bertie Yeah, but you THINK a lot of sh.t. >| >>>>> What's a runway constraint? >| >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Yeah, but you THINK a lot of sh.t. Yep, I think about you, for instance. Bertie | >| >>>>> What's a runway constraint? | >| >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] | | Bertie >>> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the >>> pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > At the end of the runway, there is a 5000 ft drop, straight down. How's > that for a constraint. Sounds like instant altitude. | > My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the | > pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. | | What's a runway constraint? | | Bertie Waddda dumbass. >| > My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the >| > pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Waddda dumbass. Awww, huwt you again did I kookieboi? Bertie | >| > My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the | >| > pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | | Bertie > My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the pilots > that were not familiar with runway constraints. Plain and simple. Have a > better theory, at this point? Ok, here is a possibility that is equally supported by the current evidence as your theory. I think all this hunting for Big Foot has Big on the run and he's coming down from the hills and jumping in front of airplanes. -robert >> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the pilots >> that were not familiar with runway constraints. Plain and simple. Have a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -robert Midnight departure? Shades of LEX perhaps? Possibly just one tired over worked poorly trained inexperienced controller on duty while the high priced FAA managers chase whores and wine and dine the neighbor's wife? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh >>> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the pilots >>> that were not familiar with runway constraints. Plain and simple. Have [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Midnight departure? > Shades of LEX perhaps? Both runways are longer than 8,000', crackhead. Try again, JJ. >>> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the >>> pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. Plain and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > controller on duty while the high priced FAA managers chase whores and > wine and dine the neighbor's wife? unlikely unless the airplane ran into another airplen, since all controllers do is keep airplanes seperated. Fjukkkwit. Bertie | >>> My wild spec, for starters, begins with, most likely, that the | >>> pilots that were not familiar with runway constraints. Plain and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | | Bertie > Midnight departure? > Shades of LEX perhaps? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Based on what evidence? Given the current known facts my Big Foot theory is at least as supported by facts as your theory. -roberrt > > Midnight departure? > > Shades of LEX perhaps? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Based on what evidence? Given the current known facts my Big Foot > theory is at least as supported by facts as your theory. Au contraire. JJ supports his theories with lysergic acid diethylamide. | > > Midnight departure? | > > Shades of LEX perhaps? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | | Au contraire. JJ supports his theories with lysergic acid diethylamide. Spoken like a true user. > | "Robert M. Gary" <N7093v@gmail.com> wrote in message > | [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Spoken like a true user. ...sez the fetal alcohol syndrome victim. >> | "Robert M. Gary" <N7093v@gmail.com> wrote in message >> | [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > ...sez the fetal alcohol syndrome victim. Yep BTW, if you're going to redirect him, please do so to alt.usenet.kooks. They love him there. And you'll make new and interesting friends with names like Terydactyl cupcake semen. Bertie >Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Jeezuz. What a stupid f.ck. He sees FAA managers in his cheerios. While remaining a leech on the gov't dole. ooh..what's that? the FAA caused another earthquake. oooo.. ants in the kitchen? AAAGH the FAA put ants in my house!!! At least the slug seems to have stopped slobbering his favorite word "sycophant". for now. >> I haven't seen any factual information yet other than the fact that >> the plane went off the end of the runway. > > But this is the Internet, so we can just wildly speculate right? > > Vaughn And people will... |
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