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Tony Condon - 02 Jul 2009 16:00 GMT
I have an old Soaring Aids variometer that I am installing in the Cherokee.
It has ports on the back for static/TE and capacity flasks.  They are not
labeled. One is red and the other is green.  Any ideas on which is which?
Thanks!

-Tony Condon
Cherokee II N373Y
Tim Newport-Peace - 02 Jul 2009 17:36 GMT
>I have an old Soaring Aids variometer that I am installing in the Cherokee.
> It has ports on the back for static/TE and capacity flasks.  They are not
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>-Tony Condon
>Cherokee II N373Y

The simple answer is:

Connect it to the capacity (any way round will do).
Take the instrument and bottle to any elevator/lift.
Press the UP button and note the reading.
If it says Sink then it is the wrong way round!

Tim Newport-Peace                       tnp@spsys.demon.co.uk

"Indecision is the Key to Flexibility."
Tony Condon - 02 Jul 2009 19:15 GMT
Tim -

Easy enough I suppose.  when I first got the Cherokee it had an old
Crossfeld electric vario in it.  the audio part didnt work.  Either the
flask or the battery was hooked up backwards and when I was in lift it
showed down and when I was in sink it showed lift.  Also, the scale was
way off.  The highest I ever saw was like 2 feet per second but usually it
was between 1/2 and 1 fps (down) when i was in lift that was stronger than
that.  I actually learned how to read that old thing and got fairly good
at working lift with it.

-Tony Condon
Cherokee II N373Y
Tim Mara - 03 Jul 2009 00:04 GMT
I sold Soaring Aids Variometers many years ago (20 + years or more)  they
were made by Marvin Willis in Arlington Texas..these were even then an old
design but a lot of us liked them back then....always worked pretty well at
the time..if you'll drop me a note I'll give you a Tel# you might try...
tim

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> -Tony Condon
> Cherokee II N373Y
Steve Leonard - 03 Jul 2009 06:15 GMT
If the ports are on opposite sides of the case, you can hold you hand in
front of one port and walk around your house.  It will show up when you
block your walking speed from the static connection.

You could do a similar thing by connecting a piece of tubing to it and
bending it around so it points back as you walk.  Again, the vario will
show up when the capacity port is open to your walking dynamic pressure.

This is probably safer than taking a battery, wires, and a suspicious
looking package to a tall building and trying to use the express elevator
to get to the top floor.

Steve Leonard
wby0nder@aol.com - 04 Jul 2009 08:33 GMT
> If the ports are on opposite sides of the case, you can hold you hand in
> front of one port and walk around your house.  It will show up when you
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> Steve Leonard

You crack me up Steve!  And I missed you at IVSM
Tim Newport-Peace - 04 Jul 2009 10:41 GMT
In article <a411dc28-b7ca-45e5-a1c5-aac0403e79b7@h2g2000yqg.googlegroups
.com>, wby0nder@aol.com writes
>> If the ports are on opposite sides of the case, you can hold you hand in
>> front of one port and walk around your house.  It will show up when you
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>You crack me up Steve!  And I missed you at IVSM

Actually, Express Elevators are not nearly as good for this as the old
fashioned maximum capacity 4 persons concertina doored devices that have
almost disappeared now. These have a constant speed unlike the express
elevators that have programmed acceleration.

Years ago, there was one of these in a London Gents Outfitters (Horne
Bros, Tottenham Court Road) that had been surreptitiously calibrated for
the purpose testing Varios.

Tim Newport-Peace                       tnp@spsys.demon.co.uk

"Indecision is the Key to Flexibility."
Surfer! - 04 Jul 2009 11:24 GMT
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>Years ago, there was one of these in a London Gents Outfitters (Horne
>Bros, Tottenham Court Road) that had been surreptitiously calibrated for
>the purpose testing Varios.

For some reason I cannot imaging you ever going near a Gents Outfitters
- at least not to buy clothes!  Did they ever work out what their lift
was being used for?  And did it have a lift operator?

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Tim Newport-Peace - 04 Jul 2009 18:52 GMT
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>For some reason I cannot imaging you ever going near a Gents Outfitters
>- at least not to buy clothes!  

No, not Horne Bros. But neither Anderson and Shepherd nor Gieves and
Hawkes (both Savile Row) have lifts.

>Did they ever work out what their lift
>was being used for?  

Not as far as I know.

>And did it have a lift operator?

Fortunately not.

Tim Newport-Peace                       tnp@spsys.demon.co.uk

"May you be cursed with a chronic anxiety about the weather."

John Burroughs (1837-1921).
Surfer! - 05 Jul 2009 09:14 GMT
>X-no-archive: yes
>><snip>
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>No, not Horne Bros. But neither Anderson and Shepherd nor Gieves and
>Hawkes (both Savile Row) have lifts.

Are you telling us you used to wear Saville Row kit?  !!!!!!  :O

How times have changed...  :)

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