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Aviation Forum / General / Soaring / September 2006Soaring in China
I'm going to China for a few weeks in October and I thought it would be nice to get in a little flying while I'm there. Unfortunately information on the subject seems hard to find. I've found a couple of posts in this group which didn't get much in the way of replies, and I found one article talking about somebody visiting a soaring operation, but I haven't actually found any concrete information as to where I might find one. Does anyone know of any soaring operations in China, or even a good place to look for such information? Thanks in advance for any pointers.  SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software One of the major obstacles to aviation sports making it into the Olympics is that most Asian countries have no civil aviation. Very unlikely to find soaring in any place like that. But good luck! > One of the major obstacles to aviation sports making it into the > Olympics is that most Asian countries have no civil aviation. Very > unlikely to find soaring in any place like that. But good luck! Some years back a group from Australia went to China and flew. > Some years back a group from Australia went to China and flew. Mal, Do you have a link or copy of the article they wrote? I've previously read it but can't find it now. I'm from NZ but currently located in Jurong, Jiangsu Province, PRC (31°57'31"N, 119°9'56"E) for a year while my wife teaches English. I'm keen to do some flying here: if I can get some contacts & info. I've sent a few emails, searched the internet but not come up with anything concrete yet. I've heard anecdotes from a contact in Nanjing that powered flying (training) might be available but I've no details on this. Michael, I'll post any info that I find on this NG. What city/ies are you visiting? Cheers Neil -- Change equals to minus to reply. http://www.avon-tech-solutions.co.nz/china_blog.html > I'm from NZ but currently located in Jurong, Jiangsu Province, PRC > (31?57'31"N, 119?9'56"E) for a year while my wife teaches English. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'll post any info that I find on this NG. What city/ies are you > visiting? I'll be spending most of my time in Beijing, although we're going to Luoyang for at least a few days, which looks to be relatively close to where you are if I haven't gotten my geography confused. I'd be willing to travel some if the situation looked good, although just how far or how good is something I haven't really figured out. I'm a bit pessimistic about finding anything, and my time may be better spent studying for the knowledge exam rather than flying, but it would be a neat experience. I appreciate your offer to post what you find, and I'll be sure to do the same. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software I know that some members of Segelfluggruppe Werdenfels went several times to China for soaring. You can contact Segelfluggruppe Werdenfels under info@sportfliegergruppe-werdenfels.de . Ask for Juergen W., he organized the trips. > I know that some members of Segelfluggruppe Werdenfels went several > times to China for soaring. You can contact Segelfluggruppe Werdenfels > under info@sportfliegergruppe-werdenfels.de . Ask for Juergen W., he > organized the trips. Thanks for the tip. I've e-mailed them, and I'll post back with what I find. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software Hi Michael, I'm based in Shanghai, have been here a couple of years, and as far as I know, there's just one place in China where u can go gliding. I never been there, it's about 3/400kms from Beijing but I cant find the link of the website at the moment. We are trying to change the situation here, but there's a matter of airspace. I guess it gives a good idea of what could happen if we do not lobby loud enough in Europe... Not nice. If you ever drop by one of these days let me know, beware that the first week of october is national holyday, hence everything we'll be shut down, nationwide. I'll mail you some more info as soon as i find them in my laptop.. Cheers Michele > > I'm from NZ but currently located in Jurong, Jiangsu Province, PRC > > (31?57'31"N, 119?9'56"E) for a year while my wife teaches English. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > a neat experience. I appreciate your offer to post what you find, and I'll > be sure to do the same. I forgot, a PPL program is actually available in Shanghai, run by a fully owned enterprise of China Eastern, the shanghai based airline. The have new C172, but the rates are as high as in Europe. They are based on the well know Longhua airfield, famous for having been depicted in the Spielberg movie "The Empire of the Sun", from the omonimous Ballard's autobiographical book. The city developped so much in the recent past that now the airport is surrounded by building on the four side and it's almost walking distance from Shanghai's Ikea.. It was once on the outskirts of the city. Anybody wanting to know more, pls mail me. I wonder how soaring over the smokes of the chemical plant right aside the strip would be.. Michele > Hi Michael, > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > a neat experience. I appreciate your offer to post what you find, and I'll > > be sure to do the same. > Hi Michael, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > airspace. I guess it gives a good idea of what could happen if we do > not lobby loud enough in Europe... Not nice. So it seems. I guess it's the logical result of combining an unelected government with no pre-existing GA activity. > If you ever drop by one of these days let me know, beware that the > first week of october is national holyday, hence everything we'll be > shut down, nationwide. So I'm told. I think I'm going to be busy with various family things that week anyway. I don't think we'll make it to Shanghai this trip, unfortunately. In any case, soaring in a chemical plant's exhaust sounds... unhealthy. > I'll mail you some more info as soon as i find them in my laptop.. Thanks, I appreciate it. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software > I'm based in Shanghai, have been here a couple of years, and as far as > I know, there's just one place in China where u can go gliding. I never > been there, it's about 3/400kms from Beijing but I cant find the link > of the website at the moment. I've had an email from the Aero Sports Federation of China who state that there is Soaring at the Datong Aero Sports School. Datong is in Shanxi Province and is about 260km W of Beijing. I have a contact phone number but I'm told they don't speak much English. I'm hoping to get an email and/or web address. Having way too much time on my hands I used Google Earth (and maps.google.com) to find pictures of gliders at an airfield ( 40° 2'22"N 113°23'30"E). http://tinyurl.com/gkmtx There is another airfield about 8km east of this which might be Datong airport (DAT)? There are regular trains from Beijing to Datong. SignatureNeil Hi Neil, yep, that's the place. They have some puchaz and the chinese built Yaks as tow planes. I wonder how fast do they climb... ;) I've been 2 yrs ago in NZ to fly, I stopped in Taupo and Omarama, really really amazing! Cheers M > > I'm based in Shanghai, have been here a couple of years, and as far as > > I know, there's just one place in China where u can go gliding. I never [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > There are regular trains from Beijing to Datong. > 2'22"N 113?23'30"E). http://tinyurl.com/gkmtx Nice :) Anybody with computer vision expertise out there? We definitely need an aircraft feature detector, parametrizable for gliders and have that running on all Google data to detect all those hidden glider sites! Regards -Gerhard SignatureGerhard Wesp / Holderenweg 2 / CH-8134 Adliswil +41 (0)76 505 1149 (mobile) / +41 (0)44 668 1878 (office) +41 (0)44 668 1818 (fax) http://gwesp.tx0.org/ >> I'm based in Shanghai, have been here a couple of years, and as far as >> I know, there's just one place in China where u can go gliding. I never [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > number but I'm told they don't speak much English. I'm hoping to get > an email and/or web address. Nice! Can you give me the phone number? My wife is Chinese so I can get her to be the intermediary over the phone. Feel free to e-mail it to me (mike at mikeash.com) if you don't want to post it publicly. 260km is not far at all! That's only about twice as far as I am from my regular US glider operation. > Having way too much time on my hands I used Google Earth (and > maps.google.com) to find pictures of gliders at an airfield ( 40? > 2'22"N 113?23'30"E). http://tinyurl.com/gkmtx Cool find. I wish my airport were available so clearly; at maximum zoom you can just barely make out the *runway*. > There is another airfield about 8km east of this which might be Datong > airport (DAT)? > > There are regular trains from Beijing to Datong. This is all great information. Thanks a lot. I searched around a little bit and the only mention I could find on the internet (searching in English) was a brief mention on this page: http://www.changjiangunlimited.com/Jim%20Mayday%202004.htm According to that, they have almost 20 ships, so it sounds pretty sizable. That's about all the information it has, though. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software > > I've had an email from the Aero Sports Federation of China who state > > that there is Soaring at the Datong Aero Sports School. Datong is in > > Shanxi Province and is about 260km W of Beijing. I have a contact phone > > number but I'm told they don't speak much English. I'm hoping to get > > an email and/or web address. E-mail: dthk@163.com http://www.datong-flight-base.com Tel:0352-6015396 (when I translated with Babelfish it suggested this was the fax number) > Nice! Can you give me the phone number? My wife is Chinese so I can get > her to be the intermediary over the phone. Feel free to e-mail it to me > (mike at mikeash.com) if you don't want to post it publicly. I delayed posting the info as I asked the ASFC for permission to put the details on the NG and they have responded with their website/contact details above. I'll be contacting Datong soon to enquire about flying there using one of our local contacts (and trying to get prices for local pilots as well as the "waiguoren price" ;) As I'm here until July/August 2007 I hope to make a few trips there. I look forward to hearing about your experiences in Datong. The question of Gliding in China has been posted in this NG a few times over the last year with few answers and if you get time it would be good to "file a report" here or on your website for future reference. Safe Flying! SignatureNeil > I've had an email from the Aero Sports Federation of China who state > that there is Soaring at the Datong Aero Sports School. Datong is in > Shanxi Province and is about 260km W of Beijing. I have a contact phone > number but I'm told they don't speak much English. I'm hoping to get > an email and/or web address. My wife found their web site: http://www.dthk.com.cn/ It's entirely in Chinese (with a Japanese translation, no English), but there are phone numbers and an e-mail address at the bottom. I just had her write an e-mail for me in Chinese asking for more information, and we'll see what they have to say. There is another site in Anyang, Henan: http://www.ayhx.com/ Again, entirely in Chinese, and no e-mail address in sight, but there's a phone number. It's a bit farther from Beijing but it looks like a decent possibility. It's interesting to see the contrast. My little club in the US owns a grand total of three ships, plus some member-owned ones. These operations have a large number of gliders and also carry out almost every other sport-like aviation activity you can think of. On the other hand, there's apparentlny only a handful of them in the entire country. As always, I'll post back when I know more. SignatureMichael Ash Rogue Amoeba Software > There is another site in Anyang, Henan: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > phone number. It's a bit farther from Beijing but it looks like a decent > possibility. I spy, with my Google Maps eye: http://tinyurl.com/j6awc (36° 8' N, 114° 20' 30"E) Their site has a 16minute WMV (129MB) showing the scope of their facilities and activities and includes a couple of shots of some glider aerobatics. It looks like they have a Grob G103 Twin Astir and a Jantar 2 and use aerotow launching. There is a snapshot of a launch grid with a German ASH25(?) ID:X3 and two other gliders (one possibly from Switzerland). Does anyone have any comments about flying from Anyang? SignatureNeil |
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