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Re: Another program letter question .....
| Andy | 10 Mar 2010 22:19 |
> A follow up to my questions and what occurred when I contacted the > SLC FSDO.
> The only major difference I can see with the operating limitations > letter is that I have to perform 'flight testing'. This is described > as 'This aircraft must be operated for at least 5 hours with at least > 10 takeoffs and landing (to a full stop), and all operations must be > conducted with 30 miles nautical miles of my home airport avoiding all > mountainous terrain.' This requirement seems very strange. To the best of my knowledge this sort of flight test phase is usually only applied to experimental amateur built and restricts operation over populated areas during the initial flights. I had not such flight test phase defined when I was issued my experimental cert for my new ASW 28.
In my case though the operating limitations say they apply after completion of the flight test phase but no flight test phase is defined. They also reference the 300nm restriction relative to the home base airport but no home base airport is defined.
I really don't think they have a very rigorous or consistent process, but if you are happy with what they gave you don't rock the boat.
BTW I think avoiding mountainous terrain is good advice for all of us. Keep at least half a wingspan away!
Andy
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| Ron Gleason | 10 Mar 2010 21:18 |
A follow up to my questions and what occurred when I contacted the SLC FSDO.
First off let me state that the process has been straight forward, the FSDO office and person I worked with was knowledgeable and completed the work swiftly, and everything was done via telephone to start and then handled via email and USPS.
Details:
I contacted the SLC FSDO via telephone and explained my situation. They took the information and stated someone would call me back. Within 24 hours I received a call back, explained the situation, and provided him the details of my plane. He stated he would do some research, see what was on file in OK and get back to me. He asked my preferred method of contact and agreed that email would be best! Within 2 days I had an email reply stating what had to done and links to the required forms. Since my plane moved from NV to UT and a different FSDO a new airworthiness certificate needed to be issued along with a new limitations letter. I had to fill out form 8130-6 Application for US Airworthiness certificate and create a program letter to accompany the application. This was done and within 10 days I had my new airworthiness certificate, operating limitations letter and sticker for my maintenance log book.
The only major difference I can see with the operating limitations letter is that I have to perform 'flight testing'. This is described as 'This aircraft must be operated for at least 5 hours with at least 10 takeoffs and landing (to a full stop), and all operations must be conducted with 30 miles nautical miles of my home airport avoiding all mountainous terrain.'
No inspections are required as pictures were requested and satisfied the inspector. I inquired about experimental aircraft needing inspections and he had not heard anything about that but he did state that the FSDO offices are not at the top of the information chain.
All in all it was a pleasant experiment, I have my program letter on file and I will have spend a few bucks doing 10 takeoff and landings before I can fly somewhere other than my home airport.
Question - I tried to find the definition of 'mountainous terrain' on the FAA website and was unsuccessful. Does anyone know where the FAA defines mountainous terrain?
Ron Gleason DG303 Acro N303MR
> My plane is registered experimental and I have not been sending the > annualprogramletterto the local FSDO. I plan on starting but have [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Ron Gleason |
| Ron Gleason | 13 Feb 2010 13:03 |
My plane is registered experimental and I have not been sending the annual program letter to the local FSDO. I plan on starting but have a couple of questions:
1 - The original airworthy certificate was issued by the Reno NV FSDO and the first two owners sent the letter there. I am in the SLC UT area and am wondering if I can/should send the letter to the Reno FSDO or do I need to send it to the SLC FSDO?
2 - If I send it to the local SLC FSDO should I include a copy of the original paperwork?
I will be contacting the SLC FSDO next week but wanted to solicit opinions here first
Thanks in advance
Ron Gleason
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